Malcolm Race – Hugh Race
Malcolm Race wrote:
“I know that my family come from Hamsterley and have traced back to a Hugh Race who was born there in 1799. This is where it goes a bit vague for me as I am unable to identify his wife as it appears that he had two with first names Elizabeth. Is there anyone out there that could help clarify the situation?”
Ann Brooker replied:
“I am researching the Race family of Hamsterley. via William Race who married Elizabeth Bryan 30.11.1790. I think Hugh and William could be brothers, as well as a George. All born at Langley dale, Staindrop parish. Have you tried the Durham BT’s? free!
“My notes:
Hugh farmed at Ravensford and was `native of Langleydale`, Staindrop with the entries for all his children.
Hugh married Mary Barthwaite? Surname illegible.
Hugh’s 5th son was born in 1802.”
Malcolm Race replied:
“Thanks
I am sure that there’s a connection here.
My Hugh 1799 was born in Hamsterley, had a brother George b. 1734 also in Hamsterley – their father was George b 1765 Langleydale. This presumably must be George the brother of William and Hugh.”
Ann Brooker replied:
“Hugh b.c.1799 and George b.c.1734 could not be brothers as the birth gap is too large.
My Wiliam who married Elizabeth Bryan was born pre 1772 and was a native of Langley Dale.
I have the following children of Hugh and Margaret born 1759-1770 at Staindrop:
Mary 1759, George 1760, Margaret 1762, George (again) 1765, Elizabeth 1768, Hugh 1770-at langlet dale..
`George was probably an important family name if the couple used it twice.
I have noted gaps in the registers. William could have been born between 1762 and 1765 or 1765-1768.
Hamsterley register mistakenly gives Elizabeth Bryan to be Hugh’s spouse.
I hope all this helps. Happy hunting!”
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My grandfather Tom Race lived in Ravensford Farm in 1911 according to the 19ll census
his wife s maiden name was Beadle. On my fathers birth certificate the address were he was
born is Bedlington Castle, Hamsterley, but I cant find any record of this address. I would
appreciate a reply.
My grandfather Tom Race lived in Ravensford Farm in 1911 according to the 1911 census,
I notice the farm was derelict until bought by the present owners. Is there any history known
about it?
I have just spotted your posting about Ravensford Farm, where Thomas Race was living in 1911. Yes, we know a great deal about its history, back to 1660. If you get in touch with me at peacock@mortonhodson.co.uk we can talk about it.
Jonathan Peacock
Further to my previous question, my aunt and uncle were Emma and Sylvester Blackett, and
when I was a child I used to visit them at their smallholding in Redford.
Hi Kathleen,
I’m interested in how far you have got with the Race family tree. I think I am related to you. My grandparents were Emma and Sylvester Race and lived at Redford. Nana moved to Orchard View and then to Chapel Close and died in 1976. She had two daughters Rosella and Doris. Doris been my Mother who died in 1989. My maiden name is Weir and my two brothers and myself still live in the village. It would be great to here from you.
Hi Kathleen,
An amendment to the Name Emma and Slyvester Blackett: Race was Nana’s maiden name.
I havent been on this site for sometime, but you are related to me as
Rosella and Doris were my cousins, I spent a few holidays with my aunt
Emma and uncle Syl when I was young and I have good memories of
them this was at the smallholding at Redford. My late brother Maurice
also had holidays with them but not at the same time as me.
Dear Kathleen,
I’m related to your family through my grandmother Edith Stephenson (1883-1922) who married Frank Sanderson in 1904 in Hamsterley. I haven’t done much research on the connection but I believe it’s through my grandmother’s family – Simpson/Beadle (sometimes misspelled as ‘Bedale’). I have a photograph of Aunt Sally Race on horseback.
I would be interested in learning more about the connection.
Thank you Frank for your reply, My Grandmother’s name was Sarah Race nee Beadle, and Im
presuming she was the aunt Sally you refer to. My son and I have only recently started to trace family history and I was very interested on your comments.
Dear Kathleen,
I’ve just seen your reply to my post from 2011… If you would like a photograph of Sarah (Sally) Race, let me know your email address (mine is fhsand35@yahoo.co.uk).
Regards,
Frank
Dear Anne
Thanks for the information.
I forgot about this website for sometime. You mention Durham BT’s. What are they? Are they something I could research on line?
This information about Hughes wife being Mary Barthwaite? could be a lead I could follow.
Thanks Again
I’m Peter Dobson researching the Dobsons of Melsonby and I have a Thomas Race marrying Sarah ? in 1884 in Hamsterley. (I may have the wrong Hamsterley) but their daughter Margaret Annie Race born 1886, married Samuel Dobson from Melsonby and they both died in Redworth. I have some photos and also one labelled “Aunt Violet at Oxmoor”.
I was very interested in your comments, as my grandfather Tom Race had daughters
Margaret, Emma and Violet, I think Margaret had a daughter called either Nellie or Violet she lived in Heighington, and is my cousin. Oxmoor Farm is where my grandfather farmed and I lived there till I was 4 yrs old.
Hi Kathleen, That definitely sounds like our family! The Nellie I knew as “Auntie Nellie” was my Dad’s sister and after her first husband died she married again to George Mallam. Please get in touch as I couldn’t find Oxmoor farm on the map – please email me – peitrx@aol.com.
Also I recently published my Dad’s memoirs which include photos of Aunt Violet and other Races at Oxmoor. Here’s the Amazon link: if it doesn’t work the book is called “Grandad’s Book – from Biplanes to Concorde” and is on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grandads-Book-From-Biplanes-Concorde/dp/1481004107/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357365182&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Hi Peter, Oxmoor Farm is at Houghton Bank, near Darlington, a picture of it is on the internet although it looks different to what it was many years ago.My mother was born in Merrybent Cottages, Melsomby I just mentioned this as you are researching, Melsomby. I will look for your book.
A very big thankyou for that information – I kept looking at Hamsterly area and this info makes much more sense! Can you get in touch to help out with our combined family tree please:
peitrx@aol.com
The way I see it is that you must be a relative!
I would say we are related a few times removed. I have looked at your website and you have
had an interesting life. I have ordered your book Grandads Book on line.Out of curiosity, was
someone in your family a squadron leader in the RAF during the last war?
Thanks for ordering the book, Dad was a Chief Tech in the RAF and would be very pleased! My parents, myself and a family member in Australia who is a professional geneologist (One of Dad’s uncles emigrated to Aussie) spent a lot of time tracing our particular Dobson line back to Spofforth and area but we loose track in the mid 1500s. The Race element proved much more difficult.